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What makes a church congregation "healthy"?  How do you measure or quantify that?

Did it pass?

Like "Does it Blend?" Methodist style.

Did 81157 pass?  I'm reading blog entries like it did -- It appears it passed in committee.  Did it make it to the floor and did it pass?

Inquiring minds want to know...

Shabbat Shalom Y'all

Greetings all from the holy city of Jerusalem. While you have been agonizing over life in the UMC, I have been wandering along the Sea of Galilee connecting with God and nature, and generally having a good ole time.


 


I haven't been following the proceedings closely, but all indications suggest to me that perhaps the most important thing done at the General Conference was the election of a slate of Judicial Council members that slid the Judicial Council back to the center of our political spectrum. This, in my opinion, is where the Judicial Council should be, and I am excited for Susan Henry Crowe in her election as the first female chairperson.


 


What are your thoughts about the Judicial Council elections and what does this bode for the future?


 


By the way, I will not be changing things on the site until after I return next week, so don't freak out that we are keeping General Conference stuff on after the event is over.


 


Peace,


Jay


 

Global AIDS Fund

In the midst of the bidding wars for the Bishop's basketball, I'm afraid another matter is quietly slipping by our attention.  In 2004, the General Conference committed to raise $8 million for the Global AIDS Fund by the 2008 General Conference.  The numbers came from the idea that if every United Methodist in the US were to give $1 we'd have more than enough money.

Sadly, as of the beginning of General Conference, we have only raised a quarter ($2.5 million) of the total promised.  At the same time, just in the last week and a half, General Conference delegations have bid close to $400,000 for the Nothing But Nets Campaign (a campaign that has already raised $20 million since its creation in 2006).

I know there isn't much time left, but I sincerely hope that someone is going to take the time to point this out to the body.  As I watch GC, I hear lots of people talking about taking action, and working to bring the church together.  If we can't follow through on our promises, how will we ever be able to move forward?

The world is watching and it is time for us to fulfill our commitments! 

If you are interested in more information or giving towards the fund, check out their website at: http://new.gbgm-umc.org/umcor/work/health/hivaids/aids-fund/.

* I'm not a delegate, but wrote a short speech about this issue because I'm a United Methodist Geek.  It can be read on my blog: www.dreamthesky.com/blog

I have an Amendment...

we have a request for the standing rules for friday. we wish to make the rule that no person is allowed to make an amendment or ask a question unless they are wearing.. a bow tie.. .this is very methodist. any seconds out there?

To Piggyback on Gavin's entry

Dear All,

Watching General Conference 2008 in community within the medium of Second LIfe has been such a blessing.  We have had jokes and laughter as well as excellent and thoughtful reflections on the actions of General Conference.

Tonight is the final working evening for GC2008; the closing worship service will start tomorrow, May 2 at 3:15 Central time.  Please join us in community tonight at 10:00 pm Eastern Time (9:00 Central, 7:00 Second Life time) to watch the final working hours of GC2008.

Tomorrow, we will gather together at 3:30 Eastern Time tomorrow for a short prayer session before the final Worship Service of GC2008 starts at 4:15 Eastern, 3:15 Central or 1:15 Second Life time.

To enter Second Life, you will need to register at www.Secondlife.com and download the client.  The orientation for Second Life will take anywhere between 15 minutes to 30 minutes -- when you are finished, IM myself (ReverendMommy Rabeni) or Gavin Richardson (Gavin Tellig) for a Teleport invitation to the build.  If you want to find it for yourself, the build is on Xenia Island and is just North of Koinonia Church.

Thanks and I hope to see you there!

MethoBlog Community Chat

we have sort of forgotten about "The Lobby" a chat room that Jay set up before heading out of town. it was mentioned that we do some scheduled times for chatting. so my proposal is this. click in "the Lobby" graphic to the right around 10pm central standard time. we can watch the closing hour or so of conference. then wrap up thoughts for the days work.

or if you are a wanting the geeky experience. join into second life. go to xenia island and behind koinonia church is the wesley retreat house. had a fun group of four of us there last night.

Heartfelt

Funny that I came here to post something I found on teh interwebs and lo and behold, Gavin is posting a reference to teh same posting.
The portion of Steve Rankin's posting that spoke to me was:

I know that this is how politics works and I guess, most of the time,
I'm quite OK with it working this way. But when I see the emotion
permeating this particular vote; when I watch people weep after the
vote because, once again, they feel that the church has spurned them or
someone they love, I think to myself, "There has to be a better way to
deal with this issue."


Indeed, there has to be a better way.

what happened on 80449?

i got to watch most of the afternoon session. this happened to hold one of the bigger anticipation parts for this conference. this is where the church and society 2 group brought to the floor petition 80449 which dealt with restructuring the social principles on human sexuality. steve rankin, a delegate at gc has a very nice perspective.


Then comes a time for making amendments to both minority and majority
reports. Because homosexual practice is so contested in our church,
lots of amendments are made to the reports, frankly, incrementally,
subtly to gut the meaning of whichever proposal the amender doesn't
like. Once the amendments are made, then, people can make speeches in
support of or against the report. A maximum of three speeches for and
three against are allowed. Then comes the vote.

Now to the issue
at hand. The committee had voted to remove the "incompatibility"
language from the Social Principles statement in the Book of Discipline
regarding "the practice of homosexuality," which now states that such
practice is "incompatible with Christian teaching." Removing the
"incompatibility language" and replacing it with a statement that our
church is divided on the matter was, in sum, the majority report
proposal.

The minority report proposal asked for the church to
maintain its current position, recognizing and upholding the scriptural
teaching against homosexual practice. To make a long story short, by a
very narrow margin, the Conference voted to replace the majority report
with the minority report, then voting to adopt it as the majority
report. By a margin of 55% to 45%, it passed. So, the official stance
of The United Methodist Church stays the same as it has been on the
question of homosexual practice, but the margin of support was very
close. We look like a divided church.

General Conference Blog Updates

  1. i have worked way later than i should have to find and roll in some new blogs for the general conference aggregator. hopefully you will check that out as they should update pretty regularly.
  2. as i have been reading the many blog postings it gives a very great expansive understanding of all that is happening. i encourage you all to check that out. if i knew how to make it all one feed i would.. but i am not able to work miracles, that is jay and he's off in the Holy Land.
  3. i found this link of the "cell phone-gate" from gc08 over the weekend, via rmn blog. it is slanted, to be expected, but cool part. it has video footage from "cell phone-gate" meeting.
  4. so i was wondering.. anyone video blogging from gc08? there is someone, meet warren. you can also do a search like this via youtube for all the most recent general conference uploads.
  5. i'd encourage all in the blog world of folks finding this site for conference info to say prayers for their delegates as from what i am reading the days get more intense as all the committee work comes to the floor. while you are doing that, go ahead and throw up a prayer for the various workers operating logistics, serving food, etc.
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